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	<title>Comments on: Five kinds of non-Mormons</title>
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		<title>By: Latter-day Commentary &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A Website for the Average Mormon</title>
		<link>http://latterdaycommentary.com/2008/04/17/five-kinds-of-non-mormons/comment-page-1/#comment-1670</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 04:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I’ve been reading the arguments on MormonThink.com off and on for several years now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I’ve been reading the arguments on MormonThink.com off and on for several years now.</p>
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		<title>By: backandthen</title>
		<link>http://latterdaycommentary.com/2008/04/17/five-kinds-of-non-mormons/comment-page-1/#comment-1669</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I think is funny about how &quot;science&quot; is used to prove the church wrong is that scientists themself are often a lot more cautious about their staement. this is just because real scientist know one true thing: they have been wrong before. Most of the time their statement include this &quot;according to the knowledge and understanding we have up to know&quot; or &quot;this is the theory we can draw from our understanding and knowledge&quot; what follows often turn in the common man&#039;s mouth into &quot;this is a fact that&quot; or &quot;everybody knows that&quot;.It is rather funny to see that the authorities these people are fereing to are a lot less sure than them about the subject their are talking about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I think is funny about how &#8220;science&#8221; is used to prove the church wrong is that scientists themself are often a lot more cautious about their staement. this is just because real scientist know one true thing: they have been wrong before. Most of the time their statement include this &#8220;according to the knowledge and understanding we have up to know&#8221; or &#8220;this is the theory we can draw from our understanding and knowledge&#8221; what follows often turn in the common man&#8217;s mouth into &#8220;this is a fact that&#8221; or &#8220;everybody knows that&#8221;.It is rather funny to see that the authorities these people are fereing to are a lot less sure than them about the subject their are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: mormonkitty</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thank you, i&#039;m kittywaymo, a TBM and convert from being a jewish, long island nyer to a happy LDS wife of a cutie obgyn and journalist(radio)/chemist.that&#039;s me in a nutshell. i love your blog!!! thank you for your comments. i too love the Gospel, have read the good, the bad and the ugly (written my exmo, formermo hatefulmo&#039;s and nevermo&#039;s...) what a complete waste of my precious time. the only good that came out of it for me, is that my testimony is solid  and i try to help others who are  wavering.... also, like you said, everything asked.. has been abundantly addressed and answered. i&#039;ve decided to focus on the positive in the world and not the negative. i joined up with elder ballard&#039;s lds.net.. it is  VERY cool, check it out! love, kittywaymo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you, i&#8217;m kittywaymo, a TBM and convert from being a jewish, long island nyer to a happy LDS wife of a cutie obgyn and journalist(radio)/chemist.that&#8217;s me in a nutshell. i love your blog!!! thank you for your comments. i too love the Gospel, have read the good, the bad and the ugly (written my exmo, formermo hatefulmo&#8217;s and nevermo&#8217;s&#8230;) what a complete waste of my precious time. the only good that came out of it for me, is that my testimony is solid  and i try to help others who are  wavering&#8230;. also, like you said, everything asked.. has been abundantly addressed and answered. i&#8217;ve decided to focus on the positive in the world and not the negative. i joined up with elder ballard&#8217;s lds.net.. it is  VERY cool, check it out! love, kittywaymo</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Malone</title>
		<link>http://latterdaycommentary.com/2008/04/17/five-kinds-of-non-mormons/comment-page-1/#comment-1667</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Malone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anonymous,You just illustrated one of the most important points of living the gospel - the self-contained witness.  Those who actually do what you said - study the gospel, immerse themselves in the scriptures regularly, obey the commandments, fulfill their callings, do their home and visiting teaching, attend the temple often - find the happiness that the Lord promised.In short, those who believe what the prophets have taught us and do as they have asked us to do, believing that they do indeed speak for the Lord, are blessed with the peace of the Lord and the comfort of the Holy Ghost to guide them.John 7:17 - &quot;If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.&quot;  There is no substitute for obedience, no matter how hard it may be, or how illogical it may appear to the natural man.1 Cor 2:14 - &quot;But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.&quot;  No matter how much people debate and argue about history and practices, the only way to really know is to do and ask God for a witness.Thank you so much for your thoughtful and insightful comment.  It adds so much to the blog.  You really nailed several important points about the antis continuing to rehash the same three or four points and thinking they are the first to have discovered these things.Maybe the discovery was new to them but not to the serious student of the doctrine and history.  I was so blessed to have a mother who taught me to look deep into the available records.  She gave me a copy of the seven volume History of the Church when I was still a teenager.I sure didn&#039;t appreciate it then but I do now.  There are a lot of things there that would surprise most folks.  It is not hidden.  I was blessed with seminary and institute teachers who loved what they were doing and helped me to love the Church all the more because of their testimonies.I am a TBM and always have been.  I hope and pray that I always will be.  Studying and sharing what I learn here helps me to believe and be faithful all the more.  Your comments and those of others like you help me to realize that I am not the only one who wants the blessings of faith and happiness that comes from believing and trusting in the words of the prophets and apostles.  Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,You just illustrated one of the most important points of living the gospel &#8211; the self-contained witness.  Those who actually do what you said &#8211; study the gospel, immerse themselves in the scriptures regularly, obey the commandments, fulfill their callings, do their home and visiting teaching, attend the temple often &#8211; find the happiness that the Lord promised.In short, those who believe what the prophets have taught us and do as they have asked us to do, believing that they do indeed speak for the Lord, are blessed with the peace of the Lord and the comfort of the Holy Ghost to guide them.John 7:17 &#8211; &#8220;If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.&#8221;  There is no substitute for obedience, no matter how hard it may be, or how illogical it may appear to the natural man.1 Cor 2:14 &#8211; &#8220;But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.&#8221;  No matter how much people debate and argue about history and practices, the only way to really know is to do and ask God for a witness.Thank you so much for your thoughtful and insightful comment.  It adds so much to the blog.  You really nailed several important points about the antis continuing to rehash the same three or four points and thinking they are the first to have discovered these things.Maybe the discovery was new to them but not to the serious student of the doctrine and history.  I was so blessed to have a mother who taught me to look deep into the available records.  She gave me a copy of the seven volume History of the Church when I was still a teenager.I sure didn&#8217;t appreciate it then but I do now.  There are a lot of things there that would surprise most folks.  It is not hidden.  I was blessed with seminary and institute teachers who loved what they were doing and helped me to love the Church all the more because of their testimonies.I am a TBM and always have been.  I hope and pray that I always will be.  Studying and sharing what I learn here helps me to believe and be faithful all the more.  Your comments and those of others like you help me to realize that I am not the only one who wants the blessings of faith and happiness that comes from believing and trusting in the words of the prophets and apostles.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://latterdaycommentary.com/2008/04/17/five-kinds-of-non-mormons/comment-page-1/#comment-1666</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love, love, love this blog, and especially this post.  I stumbled onto this blog today when I Googled one of the Church history points I have been trying to learn more about. I have been a member of the Church my whole life, and love the Gospel and the simplicity of its message.  While reading this post, I wanted to jump up and down--I&#039;m so glad I&#039;m not the only one who has stumbled onto anti-Mormon websites and read what those people had to say!  I had been feeling pretty guilty for not immediately navigating away (a question from recommend interviews kept popping into my head).  I actually learned about some things on some of those websites that I had truly never known about.  I spent a few days being disturbed by what I had read.  Were these allegations true?  And if so, what did that mean to me and to my testimony?  Thankfully, there are organizations like FAIRLDS, as well as individuals like Jeff Lindsay (and now, you!), who are comprised of people of much more scholarship than I have, and who are willing to take the time to research and inform others of the information they find.  You&#039;re absolutely right--the Anti- websites far outnumber the Pro-LDS, but I am so very grateful that those pro- sites are available to someone like me, who am actually interested in a fair, reasoned explanation for some of those &quot;sticky points!&quot;  What a change from the Anti- websites, which seem to talk around and around the same 3 or 4 points ad nauseum.  I just feel really sorry for those misguided exes, who truly believe they must be the first people to have discovered what they perceive to be embarrassing discrepancies in the Church&#039;s past, and then the shameful cover-ups that present Church leaders must scramble to come up with.To me, it all boils down to this: it doesn&#039;t matter how much &quot;dirt&quot; these people can dig up, and it doesn&#039;t matter how eloquently or vehemently they may be able to argue their points, and it doesn&#039;t matter how thoroughly they can &quot;prove&quot; that Joseph Smith or Brigham Young or a past mission president or bishop or whomever really is.  None of those things matter, because my testimony of the Gospel is just that--mine.  I know how at peace I feel when I am actually DOING and LIVING all of those &quot;Sunday School answers&quot; (reading my scriptures, going to church, praying, serving others, keeping the commandments, etc.).  That wonderful peace is all it takes to convince me I&#039;m doing the right thing.  I also know how very easy it is to be buffeted about when I have slacked off in those areas.  The Gospel of Jesus Christ is so simple and beautiful.  I thank you for a wonderful blog, and for your calm, loving, Christlike responses to people who come on here to bash various points and try to elicit an angry response.  What a great example you are!  I hope more people stumble onto this blog as I did!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love, love, love this blog, and especially this post.  I stumbled onto this blog today when I Googled one of the Church history points I have been trying to learn more about. I have been a member of the Church my whole life, and love the Gospel and the simplicity of its message.  While reading this post, I wanted to jump up and down&#8211;I&#8217;m so glad I&#8217;m not the only one who has stumbled onto anti-Mormon websites and read what those people had to say!  I had been feeling pretty guilty for not immediately navigating away (a question from recommend interviews kept popping into my head).  I actually learned about some things on some of those websites that I had truly never known about.  I spent a few days being disturbed by what I had read.  Were these allegations true?  And if so, what did that mean to me and to my testimony?  Thankfully, there are organizations like FAIRLDS, as well as individuals like Jeff Lindsay (and now, you!), who are comprised of people of much more scholarship than I have, and who are willing to take the time to research and inform others of the information they find.  You&#8217;re absolutely right&#8211;the Anti- websites far outnumber the Pro-LDS, but I am so very grateful that those pro- sites are available to someone like me, who am actually interested in a fair, reasoned explanation for some of those &#8220;sticky points!&#8221;  What a change from the Anti- websites, which seem to talk around and around the same 3 or 4 points ad nauseum.  I just feel really sorry for those misguided exes, who truly believe they must be the first people to have discovered what they perceive to be embarrassing discrepancies in the Church&#8217;s past, and then the shameful cover-ups that present Church leaders must scramble to come up with.To me, it all boils down to this: it doesn&#8217;t matter how much &#8220;dirt&#8221; these people can dig up, and it doesn&#8217;t matter how eloquently or vehemently they may be able to argue their points, and it doesn&#8217;t matter how thoroughly they can &#8220;prove&#8221; that Joseph Smith or Brigham Young or a past mission president or bishop or whomever really is.  None of those things matter, because my testimony of the Gospel is just that&#8211;mine.  I know how at peace I feel when I am actually DOING and LIVING all of those &#8220;Sunday School answers&#8221; (reading my scriptures, going to church, praying, serving others, keeping the commandments, etc.).  That wonderful peace is all it takes to convince me I&#8217;m doing the right thing.  I also know how very easy it is to be buffeted about when I have slacked off in those areas.  The Gospel of Jesus Christ is so simple and beautiful.  I thank you for a wonderful blog, and for your calm, loving, Christlike responses to people who come on here to bash various points and try to elicit an angry response.  What a great example you are!  I hope more people stumble onto this blog as I did!</p>
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