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		<title>By: And The Moon Shall Turn to Blood &#171; Latter-day Commentary</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] upheaval, economic collapse, government failure, breakdown of the communication and transportation infrastructure and all kinds of other events we [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Looking to the Future &#171; Latter-day Commentary</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] And the stars shall fall from heaven 43. Miracles and angels &#8211; a car wreck in Oklahoma 44. The government of the United States will collapse 45. Just where exactly are the lost ten tribes? 46. Mormon Church is not the fastest growing 47. [...] ]]></description>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow...epic posts and commentary! I&#039;m just eating up every bit of it.

I know it has been a while since all previous posts, but I just wanted to make a comment:

There is a man in my ward who has been issued a new calling, I believe from the stake president. This man teaches the Gospel Doctrine class and is an intense and phenomenal orator and teacher. He used to be a stake president at one time as well...He&#039;s a no-nonsense type. Great man.

Anyways, his new calling is something like an area representative. Honestly, I have no clue exactly what it&#039;s called. But I do know that it involves gaining the support of local government authorities according to the example he told us--which, to a degree, was greatly successful.

Does anyone know what I&#039;m talking about? 

I&#039;ll have to ask him what exactly the calling is again, but I&#039;m just wondering if perhaps there is a smidgen of a relation to some things that have been brought up already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;epic posts and commentary! I&#8217;m just eating up every bit of it.</p>
<p>I know it has been a while since all previous posts, but I just wanted to make a comment:</p>
<p>There is a man in my ward who has been issued a new calling, I believe from the stake president. This man teaches the Gospel Doctrine class and is an intense and phenomenal orator and teacher. He used to be a stake president at one time as well&#8230;He&#8217;s a no-nonsense type. Great man.</p>
<p>Anyways, his new calling is something like an area representative. Honestly, I have no clue exactly what it&#8217;s called. But I do know that it involves gaining the support of local government authorities according to the example he told us&#8211;which, to a degree, was greatly successful.</p>
<p>Does anyone know what I&#8217;m talking about? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to ask him what exactly the calling is again, but I&#8217;m just wondering if perhaps there is a smidgen of a relation to some things that have been brought up already.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crusty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two things... What freedoms? You mean relative freedoms...Compared to China or Cuba? You&#039;ve been disillusioned into thinking we&#039;re free. Just because your grade school teachers said you&#039;re free, we sing songs about being free, and we go to war in the name of freedom; doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;re free. And, what about all the suffering our government is causing people to endure right now? Is it OK to let that go on indefinitely, because we&#039;re scared of the suffering that might result from a revolution?2nd thing...I agree, peace and solace come from within.  Heaven is a state of mind, which can be achieved as much anywhere here on earth as it can be achieved in the afterlife.  So, why fear a complete reorganization of the US?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things&#8230; What freedoms? You mean relative freedoms&#8230;Compared to China or Cuba? You&#8217;ve been disillusioned into thinking we&#8217;re free. Just because your grade school teachers said you&#8217;re free, we sing songs about being free, and we go to war in the name of freedom; doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;re free. And, what about all the suffering our government is causing people to endure right now? Is it OK to let that go on indefinitely, because we&#8217;re scared of the suffering that might result from a revolution?2nd thing&#8230;I agree, peace and solace come from within.  Heaven is a state of mind, which can be achieved as much anywhere here on earth as it can be achieved in the afterlife.  So, why fear a complete reorganization of the US?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two things: As a Latter day saint, I love the freedoms we enjoy in America and surely feel it will be a sad day when such things come to pass...i think of all the innocent men, women, and children who will be afflicted by such tribulation.2nd thing is, I take comfort that no matter what happens, we have been promised by God and even JS that there will be peace, solace, and safety in Zion and her stakes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things: As a Latter day saint, I love the freedoms we enjoy in America and surely feel it will be a sad day when such things come to pass&#8230;i think of all the innocent men, women, and children who will be afflicted by such tribulation.2nd thing is, I take comfort that no matter what happens, we have been promised by God and even JS that there will be peace, solace, and safety in Zion and her stakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Crusty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crusty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I look forward to the day when America will fall and become divided.  I believe it&#039;s not something we should be dreading, rather it&#039;s something we should look forward to.  Optimism is hoping it will fall; pessimism is hoping it will endure.  I can&#039;t think of any good reason why we would want it to endure.  We are as Socialist or more Socialist as the European countries that we have long labeled &quot;Socialist.&quot;  I can&#039;t think of anything worth saving.  We sing about freedom, praise the USA for being a free country, and we even go fight wars in the name of protecting freedom; then every chance we get, we rob ourselves and other people of it in the ballot boxes.I don&#039;t see any reason why a faithful member of the LDS church would want such an institution to endure.  A person&#039;s spirituality is far from dependent on any government.  Maybe when President Benson said the USA will endure, he meant the spirit of the USA will endure.  I hope that spirit is the spirit of freedom and not Socialism or forced morality.That Russian is anything but prophetic.  Why would the country split in the way he thought it would?  Why would South Carolina unite with the NE?  Why would most of Texas unite with the south?  Why would Utah &amp; Idaho unite with California?  Why wouldn&#039;t half of CA, AZ, and NM unite with Mexico?  If the U.S. was completely disorganized, why would state lines remain?  His assessment has absolutely no credibility.  Knowing nothing about the different geographical regions (or the U.S. in general), he drew a bunch of lines all over the map.  ...Hardly insightful or realistic...LDS Anarchy, I can&#039;t believe you would hope the US would endure.  Explain why, or clarify that&#039;s not what you want.  If righteous people want to uphold the Constitution, then they should be supporting the downfall of the current government, state succession, and eventual re-organization under Constitutional law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I look forward to the day when America will fall and become divided.  I believe it&#039;s not something we should be dreading, rather it&#039;s something we should look forward to.  Optimism is hoping it will fall; pessimism is hoping it will endure.  I can&#039;t think of any good reason why we would want it to endure.  We are as Socialist or more Socialist as the European countries that we have long labeled &quot;Socialist.&quot;  I can&#039;t think of anything worth saving.  We sing about freedom, praise the USA for being a free country, and we even go fight wars in the name of protecting freedom; then every chance we get, we rob ourselves and other people of it in the ballot boxes.I don&#039;t see any reason why a faithful member of the LDS church would want such an institution to endure.  A person&#039;s spirituality is far from dependent on any government.  Maybe when President Benson said the USA will endure, he meant the spirit of the USA will endure.  I hope that spirit is the spirit of freedom and not Socialism or forced morality.That Russian is anything but prophetic.  Why would the country split in the way he thought it would?  Why would South Carolina unite with the NE?  Why would most of Texas unite with the south?  Why would Utah &amp; Idaho unite with California?  Why wouldn&#039;t half of CA, AZ, and NM unite with Mexico?  If the U.S. was completely disorganized, why would state lines remain?  His assessment has absolutely no credibility.  Knowing nothing about the different geographical regions (or the U.S. in general), he drew a bunch of lines all over the map.  &#8230;Hardly insightful or realistic&#8230;LDS Anarchy, I can&#039;t believe you would hope the US would endure.  Explain why, or clarify that&#039;s not what you want.  If righteous people want to uphold the Constitution, then they should be supporting the downfall of the current government, state succession, and eventual re-organization under Constitutional law.</p>
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		<title>By: Me, Myself and I</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Me, Myself and I]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I very much enjoy your blog and invite you to list it (for free) onhttp://ldslistings.blogspot.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much enjoy your blog and invite you to list it (for free) onhttp://ldslistings.blogspot.com/</p>
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		<title>By: MarkS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Russian prof was out of his mind--certainly Utah and probably Idaho will end up in the CNAR with the center of Canada--Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and part of Ontario. BC definitely goes with CaliOrWaC.As was said a few posts earlier, serious commentary may now proceed...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russian prof was out of his mind&#8211;certainly Utah and probably Idaho will end up in the CNAR with the center of Canada&#8211;Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and part of Ontario. BC definitely goes with CaliOrWaC.As was said a few posts earlier, serious commentary may now proceed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ldsanarchy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ldsanarchy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim, I just now came across your post.  Yesterday, I finished writing a post on my own blog in which I &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://ldsanarchy.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/dc-87-expounded/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;expounded D&amp;C 87&lt;/a&gt;.  Both subjects seem to speak of the same subject.  Coincidence or inspiration?  Or is it just that the economic situation has everyone thinking the unthinkable?One more thing: Last Sunday, someone at church, thinking that my wife might be interested, out of the blue handed my wife a piece of paper (typist is unknown) which had the following verbatim text on it:AMERICA WILL SURVIVEAlthough there may be lying and deceit, and there may be wickedness in high places and breaking down of constituted government, we know that &lt;b&gt;America will survive,&lt;/b&gt; and the Lord&#039;s hand will be seen yet in some miraculous demonstrations of power in the days that lie ahead.  (President Harold B. Lee, Church News, October 27, 1973, page 3)A strong plea &quot;not to preach pessimism about the country&quot; and to return to the Lord for guidance and direction was made Oct. 26 by President Harold B. Lee.President Lee said the United States will stand despite whatever trials and crisis it may have to pass through.  He stressed emphatically that &lt;b&gt;the nation will never fail.&lt;/b&gt;Men may fail in this country.  Earthquakes may come; seas may heave themselves beyond their bounds; there may be great drought and disaster and hardship, but &lt;b&gt;this nation,&lt;/b&gt; founded as it was on a foundation of principle laid down by men whom God raised up, &lt;b&gt;will never fail.&lt;/b&gt;...we should be providing optimistic support of the nation.  (President Harold B. Lee, Church News, November 3, 1973, pages 3 &amp; 7)Ezra Taft Benson...says &lt;b&gt;America will endure&lt;/b&gt; despite an increasing threat from communism, socialism and big government.&lt;b&gt;This nation will endure&lt;/b&gt;...I believe this nation is something special.  This nation has a spiritual foundation.  And I think it was intended that this great nation be a beacon to liberty-loving people everywhere.  Certainly it&#039;s a land choice above all other lands, the most productive in the world.  And of course it has demonstrated the productivity and the power of the free enterprise system.  (The Idaho Statesman, Boise, February 22, 1974, page 6-B)President Benson also stated...despite the challenges ahead, &quot;&lt;b&gt;this nation will endure.  I expect to see the stars and stripes fluttering on the breeze when the Savior comes.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;  (Church News, July 14, 1979, page 5)&lt;b&gt;America&lt;/b&gt; will be a blessed land unto the righteous forever and &lt;b&gt;is the base from which God will continue to direct the worldwide latter-day operations of His kingdom.&lt;/b&gt;  (See 2 Ne. 1: 7)  (Ezra Taft Benson, &quot;I Testify,&quot; Ensign, Nov. 1988, page 86)&lt;b&gt;Be still, and know that I am God..&lt;/b&gt;  (Psalms 46: 10)  (ie, Relax, I&#039;m in charge.)&lt;b&gt;...let your hearts be comforted concerning Zion; for all flesh is in mine hands; be still and know that I am God.&lt;/b&gt;  (D&amp;C 101: 16)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I just now came across your post.  Yesterday, I finished writing a post on my own blog in which I <a HREF="http://ldsanarchy.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/dc-87-expounded/" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">expounded D&amp;C 87</a>.  Both subjects seem to speak of the same subject.  Coincidence or inspiration?  Or is it just that the economic situation has everyone thinking the unthinkable?One more thing: Last Sunday, someone at church, thinking that my wife might be interested, out of the blue handed my wife a piece of paper (typist is unknown) which had the following verbatim text on it:AMERICA WILL SURVIVEAlthough there may be lying and deceit, and there may be wickedness in high places and breaking down of constituted government, we know that <b>America will survive,</b> and the Lord&#8217;s hand will be seen yet in some miraculous demonstrations of power in the days that lie ahead.  (President Harold B. Lee, Church News, October 27, 1973, page 3)A strong plea &#8220;not to preach pessimism about the country&#8221; and to return to the Lord for guidance and direction was made Oct. 26 by President Harold B. Lee.President Lee said the United States will stand despite whatever trials and crisis it may have to pass through.  He stressed emphatically that <b>the nation will never fail.</b>Men may fail in this country.  Earthquakes may come; seas may heave themselves beyond their bounds; there may be great drought and disaster and hardship, but <b>this nation,</b> founded as it was on a foundation of principle laid down by men whom God raised up, <b>will never fail.</b>&#8230;we should be providing optimistic support of the nation.  (President Harold B. Lee, Church News, November 3, 1973, pages 3 &amp; 7)Ezra Taft Benson&#8230;says <b>America will endure</b> despite an increasing threat from communism, socialism and big government.<b>This nation will endure</b>&#8230;I believe this nation is something special.  This nation has a spiritual foundation.  And I think it was intended that this great nation be a beacon to liberty-loving people everywhere.  Certainly it&#8217;s a land choice above all other lands, the most productive in the world.  And of course it has demonstrated the productivity and the power of the free enterprise system.  (The Idaho Statesman, Boise, February 22, 1974, page 6-B)President Benson also stated&#8230;despite the challenges ahead, &#8220;<b>this nation will endure.  I expect to see the stars and stripes fluttering on the breeze when the Savior comes.&#8221;</b>  (Church News, July 14, 1979, page 5)<b>America</b> will be a blessed land unto the righteous forever and <b>is the base from which God will continue to direct the worldwide latter-day operations of His kingdom.</b>  (See 2 Ne. 1: 7)  (Ezra Taft Benson, &#8220;I Testify,&#8221; Ensign, Nov. 1988, page 86)<b>Be still, and know that I am God..</b>  (Psalms 46: 10)  (ie, Relax, I&#8217;m in charge.)<b>&#8230;let your hearts be comforted concerning Zion; for all flesh is in mine hands; be still and know that I am God.</b>  (D&amp;C 101: 16)</p>
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